Starting Over Talk - Peer Coaching Support Site

iwannachat wrote:

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I think it's going to be about women who were really bad, and need to start over to a good life. Ha ving been a "bad girl" I'm really interested in how the "coaches" are going to approach the women. I'm a recovering addict, alkie with 22 years of clean/sober living under my belt. If what I am thinking they are going to do, it would be great to give some women who have no $$$$ like most of the women did (Except Rain & Cassie Bobblehead) on SO. If anyone needs a hand up, it's someone who kicked them selves off the curb and needs to get back up so they can lead a decent life.


Does that mean that Rain & Cassie did not deserve help? Please explain....

No, certainly I was not saying that Rain & Cassied didn't deserve help. I was simply commenting that most of the women on SO could have afforded a private life coach, but a couple couldn't

I was trying to say that it's hard for "bad girls" to get help, because usually they don't have $$ to pay for help because of the lives they've led. I am hoping this new show will be a hand up for women who couldn't other wise afford professional help. And I hope the women on the show will take advantage of the opportunity and not blow it like at least one woman did who didn't keep the good job she had.

moondreamer wrote:

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I just now watched the Oxygen video. I rarely do that cause I'm on dial up and it takes for bleedin ever, and usually not worth the wait.

That blurb seems to be aimed toward Men's fantasies. The sillhouettes (sp?) with the upturned boobs, The sensationalist announcing, just the whole video in general seems like a toned down Mitchell Brothers style of "art." Plus, the title of "Bad Girls Club" really is exploitive.

Too bad Bunim died. I think SO was her baby. Murray looks like a slimey toad.

But question- If abusing drugs and alcohol, or being a gang banger, or hooker doesn't make you a bad girl, what does? I've been one or two of those things myself. I mean, really, define what a bad girl is.

Yepper, SO was Mary Ellis Bunim's brainchild. If she hadn't died of breast cancer, I'll bet the show would still be alive and well. And, more like the first season, with less drama than the last two. Having breast cancer survivor Allison on SO was Jonathan Murray's &quot;tribute&quot; to Bunim. But, IMO, a far better tribute would've been to continue SO in the spirit in which Bunim began it. Real women getting help. Instead of turning it into a drama fest. And, replacing it with Bad Girls, produced by a man for men. Just the name sounds like something better suited for Spike TV than Oxygen<br><br>Post edited by: turtle, at: 2006/11/21 18:14

Define what a bad girl is.[/quote]

Probably the kind of gal Murray thinks men want to watch on TV. A group of silicone chested divas clawing each other's eyes out.<br><br>Post edited by: turtle, at: 2006/11/21 18:19

moondreamer wrote:

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I just now watched the Oxygen video. I rarely do that cause I'm on dial up and it takes for bleedin ever, and usually not worth the wait.

That blurb seems to be aimed toward Men's fantasies. The sillhouettes (sp?) with the upturned boobs, The sensationalist announcing, just the whole video in general seems like a toned down Mitchell Brothers style of &quot;art.&quot; Plus, the title of &quot;Bad Girls Club&quot; really is exploitive.

Too bad Bunim died. I think SO was her baby. Murray looks like a slimey toad.

But question- If abusing drugs and alcohol, or being a gang banger, or hooker doesn't make you a bad girl, what does? I've been one or two of those things myself. I mean, really, define what a bad girl is.

Yepper, SO was Mary Ellis Bunim's brainchild. If she hadn't died of breast cancer, SO would probably be alive and well. Having breast cancer survivor Allison

New info up on Oxygen.com

Profiles of the 'residents'... I don't recognize any of them!
http://www.badgirlsclubonoxygen.com/inframe/index.html


There is also a tour of the 'house'...Looks like they headed to the hills again.

Oh good grief!!! I just went to KPW's link and watched their promo's. This is definitely NOT an offspring of SO. This looks like total trash to me. Is half the show going to be bleeped out??????
There will be no value in this show. Looks to be a big disappointment to me. What did you think of those promo's?