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grizzlys4 wrote:

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Yes, but many, many of us have had horrible childhoods and other life-challenging issues and have NEVER been disgusting!! While I agree that people can indeed grow and change behaviors, I do not agree that it happens when several are just thrown together to "miraculously" learn and change. This approach has never worked in that way..........ask anyone who's in child development, education, therapy, etc.

Yes, it may make good t.v., but a serious intervention and learning show it is not! Does that mean nobody should watch it? Of course not............there are Reality Shows on just about every subject out there. I just disagree that this should be promoted as any kind of self-help show!!

WOW! You guys are tough huh??? lol You know when speaking to a few of my producers last week in L.A. we were warned to stay off of the reality sites because basically of peoples comments like grizzlys4!

But being the "rebel" that I am I refused because I wanted to be able to interact with people that watched the show and get feedback! But one thing as a women I will NOT tolerate is someone who disrespects me!

1st: Me and my roommates are FAR from disgusting women!
2nd: I DID NOT make the pilot for this show...soooo coming at me about how much the show looks like this or doesnt look like that is irrelevant as to why I am here!(Im was only casted as a resident...not promoted as president of who decides what the hell the show is about) *trying to keep her cool*
3rd. This show is NOT being portrayed as a self-help show! DUHH
(as i have stated in many of my other comments left on this site)

Now...I am willing to answer any questions...but One thing I hated growing up was people who judged you! I was always taught not to judge people because no one is perfect...look at your own backyard before you decide to sit on some website all day and judge others! That makes u no better then the person your judging! And how can you say that throwing women in a house together can not help anyone...SO WHAT! you didnt live there so you dont know WHAT some of us may have learned from one another...I have lived in group homes and foster care since i was 13...and I learned alot! I just wish that one day we'd live in a world were people would stop being so nosey to other peoples world and start noticing there own! You dont have to like me...I DONT CARE...what you eat doesnt make me Sh*t.....BUT YOU WILL RESPECT ME!

Well, I thought I was in an open conversation...."I don't care what others think" and "I can take it" statements made me think this would be an interesting conversation. I certainly didn't expect complete agreement.........I never do! But it's highly ironic that I'm one reality contestants are told to stay away from??! We know Jill from SO thought differently.....LOL!!!

Yes, I'm always going to call a spade a spade.........that's just me. I do it with myself too!! I love to have conversations.....even spirited ones. But I dislike being misquoted/twisted. What I said was that I think the ACTIONS are disgusting...words/behaviors/etc. I never said a PERSON was!!! Next, I said that throwing several women into a house with high drama/issues/etc. was not healthy. With personal experience living thru abuse, and helping others, yes, I do have a credible background. If everyone could just go live together for a couple months and duke out all their deep issues with no external behavioral education, therapy, etc. then we wouldn't even have an industry of psychiatry, therapy, mental health, etc!!!!

I will say this............no I most certainly do not have to respect anyone!!!! This quality is earned, not automatic!!!! If those who want justification and respect just because get frustrated, oh well. Behaviors and words are the window to the soul! And the last time I checked.......juvenile cussing and catfights very much fell into the disgusting category!

Listen........I don't use personal names in my posts so it doesn't seem like there are personal attacks. I do comment on what others post and say and especially correct mush that was made of my own viewpoints! I didn't force anyone to go on a reality show or act the way they do.........but I'll enter into discussions where I'm interested! If it's really too much to hear various viewpoints, some very strong but with a LIFEtime of experience, then fine. But it's not like I'm just one of those who post nasty words and rumors and name-calling. Sheeeesh!!! Just wanted to have an intelligent, if spirited and differing, discussion.

WOW! So u really somewhere in that ignorant mind of yours think that you dont have to respect anyone until they've earned it! LMAOOO thats the most amusing thing I've heard all week...actually its sooo ignorant that you sound almost as bad as that white guy running around like a chicken at the comedy club in L.A. calling everyone niggers!! LOL Matter of fact you sound like a old ass racist chick! WOW Is that why you took off on the wrong foot with me before getting a chance to get to know me.....YUP...sounds like a racist to me....Considering I dont hear from many black women on this site! I'm always open for discussion but not for insult...so sell this one to the press lady! lol Im done entertaining your boring excuse for an internet life! Get a real life then come holla at me!

I understand where Grizz is coming from.. and she's been here a long time.. and a valued member of the forum here..

For you to namecall her is inappropriate...(calling her a rascist is stupid..and makes you no better than Michael Richards!) For the record... I don't think any of us know what race one another are... It doesn't and shouldn't matter!

You are the one who said you can take the criticism..good or bad...

This forum is by far the kinder of forums that SO fans had access to. If you can't take the heat now before the show even starts, maybe you should reconsider the advice the producers gave you about staying off the forums.
I am sure it can be frustrating.. and you probably will feel misunderstood.. Especially if B/M decides to paint some of the women (including you) in a very unflattering light.

As it is now, you are beginning to paint a picture of yourself for us...well before the show ever debuts!

I am the one that bought up the hustler inquiry... But not based on the show profile that I later saw..but based on your myspace account.

I'm fine with you calling yourself a hustler and meaning it in a positive frame.. I explained earlier that not everyone will have that same point of view.. I think the majority of women on this site are considerably older than you...

I remember having an argument one time with my father about the word 'gross'... In the way most of us know it now...was not always the case... It used to be mean 12 dozen (144) ... Still does... but one is a noun the other an adjective.. Probably the same I guess with Hustler.. Until it becomes more widely used slang... some will just assume that B/M is implying you are a manipulator or are less than honest.

We shall all just have to wait and see what kind of hustling you do... I do hope we are all delightfully surprised at the show... We all miss S/O...

You never did answer about Dr. Stan..... Inquiring minds want to know!

I also understand where Grizz is coming from.. she has been a voice of kindness, wisdom and comfort...

I believe it is appropriate to discuss a behavior without attacking the person.

To quote KPW: "For you to name call her is inappropriate... calling her a rascist is stupid...

KPW... I agree

Wow...Originalbadgirl... where did this come from? Shame on you for your racial comments... not nice.<br><br>Post edited by: mazzy, at: 2006/11/30 00:23