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Wait a minute. Anna's closest friends were on saying how lonely Anna was and no one wanted to go out with her. It's beginning to sound like she was more socially active than we thought.

I never saw the report either... and I am sure the media would have been all over it.. In any event if it happened, he should have made sure she had gotten the medical attention at that point. He is always so calm cool and collected.. I heard she had pneumonia back in Dec.

I heard they were saying she had been sick for several days.. But she only arrived there on Monday..

The preliminary report today is that they still don't know why she died. They said everyone is cooperating and obviously there were several others around..although noone there when she went down. They said a nurse found her. And a bodyguard started doing cpr.. Why wouldn't the nurse have been able to get that started..

Just a whole lot of strange sets of circumstances..

I saw Danny Bonaduce giving an interview saying that during her reality show...she was so out of it most of the time that they had to prop her up and tell her what lines she was to say... and film the show in bits and pieces.

Danny Bonaduce probably isn't the best source out there given his own history.. But he seemed sober enough..

I just saw that Anna's mother has gone to the Bahamas to check on the baby..

How old is Zsa Zsa Gabor's husband? Was she after another wealthy old man!

Zsa Zsa's husband is a Prince (supposedly bought his way into it with an adoption)

He was 59 years old and the articles says that she wanted to be made into a Princess and short of divorcing Zsa Zsa and marrying her... he would have adopted her but Zsa Zsa would not permit it.

He claims his affair with her started while she was married to Marshall.

mistyblu wrote:

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The report is now that Anna had a 105 temp and the nurse packed her in ice and brought it down. Why wasnt she taken to the hospital.

Oh for crying out loud do that DNA test to find out who the father is.

Last but no least--Howard was always considered overly possessive of her very controlling--they often fought about that. She was also supposed to be his only financial support. The guy is creepy and always was. On those reality shows she couldn't even decorate without him interferring. Anna's family who she has been estranged from of course publicly believed he killed her son cause he was so controlling and possessive and "wanted Anna to himself" ... Then how did suddenly Howard come back in her life claimed he was her husband and this was their baby. Something weird was going on.... Why was he back in her life when he was living elsewhere when she was going out with Birkhead. What hold did he have over her. Maybe ole Howard drugged her got her pregnant since she vowed "having sex with Howard would make her puke" and she would never do that, her female lover reported. ..."

OMG yes, do the DNA test already! And Mistyblu you expressed how Stern's conduct struck me as well. I don't know if he actually did anything active to harm anyone, but anyone could see that this woman was drowning, in her grief, in drugs, and now there's report about her recently found floating in a pool. What was this man, her "husband," doing to help her? All I read about was his sudden insistence that he was the baby's father, his influence in causing her to resist tests to prove paternity, the lack of cooperation during the inquiry about her son's death. And that "commitment ceremony" - with someone in HER condition? Totally unethical. I have read that friends of hers are now caring for the baby, which if true is a curious thing, where a surviving parent would be expected to draw even closer to the child to provide protection and comfort.

And as Debby said,

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As far as Howard goes, I have never seen him on camera that he appeared to be impaired, while Anna always appears impaired IMO, except when she is in court. Howard must know the extent of her addiction.

He was always lucid and completely in control, while she was falling apart. How could he let her appear on camera that way? Nothing about his conduct or decisions rings truthful.<br><br>Post edited by: doxygirl, at: 2007/02/09 20:38

I know, I know, Howard did not seem to be looking out for Anna's best interest, but, did you ever see Anna's reality show. I bet they will bring it back in reruns now. I bet you.

Anyway, even though Anna was messed up on drugs and drinking, she still bossed Howard around like a dog. She would whine and pout and order him to do any crazy thing you can imagine....anything from washing her dog to to picking her up fast food. I really felt sorry for him. He had no self-respect at all. She would occasionlly give him a hug or pat on the head and he would just eat it up.

I think I remember seeing him take charge once when the decorators for Anna's bedroom didn't do a good job per there instruction. But, it seemed as if it took alot to get him going. To me, he seemed like a pushover. I don't know, maybe he's changed and the roles were reversed. I guess we'll get the chance to see now.

Debby, that could have just been a 'role' he played... It was her show...and I seem to recall it was his idea.. Her show was on 2002-2004 if I recall right and he'd by then been with her since almost the time of her husband's death.. or at least the hearings shortly thereafter regarding the will. It would have been to his advantage to let her have the spotlight in that show.. If he'd stood up to her.. or balked at something.. then that would have detracted from her stardom... (for lack of a better word!)

I found this news piece about Howard. It mentions a wedding ceremony that had been planned for Feb. 23rd. I wonder if any invites went out? Seems strange that this piece of info if given. Why didn't they just marry back in Sept? rather than stage a fake wedding?

Check out this article..

No record of him ever having done any cases in Calif..(attorney of record?).. Had an apt. in Santa Monica... and had a business called &quot;Hot Smoochie Lips, Inc.&quot;... but nothing is known about the company..
http://abclocal.go.com/wpvi/story?section=entertainment&amp;id=5020136

I expect alot more will come out regarding this mystery man.. he might be in over his head..