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I thought I was going to be sick watching the Entertainment Tonight spokespersons talk about how pitiful Anna is and what a horrible thing she is gong through, it was crazy. Yes, I feel empathy for any person who loses a child. That is sad, but, what is more sad is the living child who is now in danger.

Anna says she has no memory of Daniel arriving at the hospital or anything after that. SHe relies on what Howard told her happened. I think this is a convenient memory loss. She is so distraught that she cannot function nor plan the funeral, but, she is able to hire a fashion stylist to come with a wedding dress and go out on a boat in the middle of the night for a fake wedding ceremony? That is too crazy.

She still appears to be drugged, of course now she has a reason to be....grief and and, plus she is physcially sick. Howard appeared to be sober and clear headed. I have never seen Howard when he appeared any other way, while on the other hand, Anna always appears to be heavily medicated.

No one has ever known of Daniel to take any drugs, but, yesterday there was another release of info that showed there were even more drugs in Daniel's system than originally thought....actually 7 drugs!

Guest on Nancy Grace had the audacity to speculate that Daniel went on a street corner to purchase these prescription medications....Zoloft was one in addition to the methadone. Are these people crazy? Do you think this boy would have risked getting on an airplane with all of these illegal drugs without a prescription? He was a straignt arrow and top student, that doesn't make sense to me.

I hope Birkhead's legal team is successful in obtaining the test and that somehow they can get that little girl in the custody of people who are competent to care for her, whether it be grandparents, aunts, protective services, etc.

There is still pending litigation with Anna's lawsuite with her deceased husband's family. Perhaps Birkhead's legal team can ban together with the dead man's heirs and create a legal reason for her to come back to the states. That is a good possibility. I heard the main heir to Anna's deceased husband has also died. Tragedy does surround this lady. I hope she gets help.

I can just imagine this plot getting more and more bizarre.

I don't think Daniel ever left the hospital . He was picked up at the airport by Stern and from what I heard they went directly to the hospital. If they had a home nearby... why not go home and get a good nights sleep.. I think I heard that Stern was the one who at one point went out to get some convenience food. Not sure when exactly that was..

I had heard that Daniel had told friends he wasn't feeling well before he ever even left the states..

It just seems really peculiar that he would die in his mother's room. Daniel had probably seen his mom use recreational drugs.. I think anything is possible.

Stern, if he does marry Anna, stands to be a very rich man.. (the commitment ceremony was not legal supposedly).. He seems to have alot of control over her life... doesn't he?

I think hopefully the truth comes out eventually.. so that in some way this little girl will have a chance at a normal life. If that means she needs to go live with someone else or if Anna gets in depth help.

One report I heard said that Daniel had helped his mother to the bathroom about 5 or 6 in the morning...and less than a couple hours later died? I know it's possible.. But something had to have happened... or the timeline has been conveniently tweaked by the witnesses.

Daniel himself would have been a witness to the issues surrounding the probable paternity of the baby..

7 drugs in his system... wow... I think there is more to come on this whole story.. Just a gut feeling..

In the photos of Daniel and Anna in the hospital room, their is a Wendy's cup on the table in the background. I guess that is where Howard went to get the food, so there was alone time with Anna and Daniel.

As far as the money Anna Nicole may get....that money would be received pursuant to an inheritance. In most states, under marital property law, inheritances are considered separate property and remain the separate property of the person who receives it. It is not subject to becoming part of the marital estate, even if you are married when you receive it. So, even if Anna gets that money, it should stay her separate property, even it she marries someone. The only way that it could become a spouse's would be if she died. Then the money would be distributed according to her will or to her heirs. I'm sure she has a will to prevent anything from going to her mother, whom she dislikes.

I think she is still getting a large stipend annually from the estate until it gets finalized. Before Marshall's son died (who had been contesting the will) she had already won another round in the courts.. I don't know with his death, who would be next in line to contest it...

You might be right about the money... unless of course something happened to her.. I would hope she'd do a prenup if they do get married.

I don't know if it was earlier in this thread or somewhere else I heard or read that her mother raised her son for the first 7 or 8 years? I'm sure her mother and extended family were upset that they weren't able to have a proper funeral/burial. I did hear they finally did a memorial service back in Texas I think... I heard Daniels' father was very upset after his death.. Anna held all the cards. It was only 2 weeks or so ago that they finally had a closed graveside service in the Bahamas..

I ought to see if I can find a website that sums up her last 20 years... with a little more detail. Not sure how true it is that her mother raised Daniel for his first 7 or 8 years.. If so.. then she is really an ingrate! But I just think she has always been a manipulator.

I think Nancy Grace has lost her mind. Last night she was surprised when a caller mentioned the fact that Anna Nicole has looked drugged out of her mind for all public appearances she has made, including her tv show, for the last few years. (I would say at least 5 years). Nancy was shocked and said she didn't know that Anna had appeared that way. The only way you would not know it is if you have not seen her at all. I think she was sober when she testifed in court...not sure which year that was, but that was the only sober appearance.

She even had a video on her website when she got pregnant in which she was standing in a swimming pool and she said to the camera, "There is rumor that I am preganant. If you want to find out if it is true, click on the space below, (you had to pay a fee) and she would then let you know." The entire thing was pitiful, but even in that video she looked medicated. She slurred her words and her eyes looked drugged.

Apparently Birkhead is going to the Bahamas and filing a claim for false representation on the birth certifcate against Anna and Howard. Anna's spokesperson says Anna will not provide the child for DNA test unless she is forced by court order. Then he says that it is a private matter and should be handled privately. Which makes no sense....if you force someone to file a lawsuit, then it becomes public. That entire argument is ridiculous.

I'm now wondering if she is enjoying this publicity. I know it seems odd with her grieving and all, but, what else could she be doing if that child belongs to Howard, why put yourself through the media circus and pay all that money in legal fees, when you could end it immediately?

Yeah Debby, I think she really is just a pitiful woman who has mental illnesses. I can only hope that baby ends up in a loving and stable home!