Starting Over Talk - Peer Coaching Support Site

rmgillis wrote:

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So very true. I understand they want to support Andy Page, however, this should not be at the expense of show viewers or the house graduates. Andy's time has passed and her make overs are not very good. I was embarassed for Jodi who looked absolutely awful in her ill fitting graduation outfit.

It would certaily make the show more interesting, give takes on different styles of dressing and the unexpected is usually more interesting than the usual!!!:

I agree completely with every word of this! It was embarrassing, the way Andy dressed Jodi. There have been other embarrassments with past makeover. Every makeover Andy does seems to be more about her and what she would wear, than about the individual HG whose look and transition is supposed to be the focus. I do not believe Andy has shown talent or versatility as a stylist. She cannot seem to envision different styles and tastes for different people.

I would love to see a really talented, open-minded stylist work with Christie when it is finally her turn.

Andy seems to do well with colors and coordinates, lines.. I don't understand why the hg can't pick a shop that suites them and just get advice from Andy instead of her choosing the shop with little selection that fits the personality of the hg she's making over. She just cannot fit every individual into her 'style' it doesn't work. I cringe when she walks in to do a makeover. I feel for the hg because I know they want to bring out their best and it just doesn't happen for them. Thank goodness they are able to take it in stride and enjoy the graduation regardless.

Mystique wrote:

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Andy seems to do well with colors and coordinates, lines.. I don't understand why the hg can't pick a shop that suites them and just get advice from Andy instead of her choosing the shop with little selection that fits the personality of the hg she's making over. She just cannot fit every individual into her 'style' it doesn't work. I cringe when she walks in to do a makeover. I feel for the hg because I know they want to bring out their best and it just doesn't happen for them. Thank goodness they are able to take it in stride and enjoy the graduation regardless.

Yep. I can feel my eybrows inching their way up under my hair, trying to hide, poor babies.

I would have loved to see the guys from Queer Eye come in and do their thing. Or the people from Extreme Makeover. Or the ladies from What Not to Wear. Or that lady in BH who did Oprah's brows (which she kept all these years because they were THAT good - she spent, like $1500 on them, I think?). All do amazing work and no two people end up looking the same - or looking like they shopped at the same store. They could have had guest stylists and top design houses from all over the world, easily.

It's not all about just how wrong AP can be. You guys see the red carpet disasters, too. Some of them just make me want to claw my eyes out (Renee Zellweger's pretty much batting 1000 ). But then, they're up the the street from Hollyweird - who's doing Kidman? Aguilera? J Ho? Portman?

The SO ladies deserved and should have had world-class makeovers from the pros who make the butt ugly televisable all the time. That was a HUGE marketing mistake on the production company's part. Had this been part of the show, they might well be seeing another season. Think about it - they flat out GAVE AP tens of millions in advertising, when they could have had anyone. And she still could have gotten her 15 minutes, coordinating the affair instead of trying to do the homegrown thing. What a damned short-sighted shame. It was a great concept.

Serena wrote:

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Mystique wrote:

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Andy seems to do well with colors and coordinates, lines.. I don't understand why the hg can't pick a shop that suites them and just get advice from Andy instead of her choosing the shop with little selection that fits the personality of the hg she's making over. She just cannot fit every individual into her 'style' it doesn't work. I cringe when she walks in to do a makeover. I feel for the hg because I know they want to bring out their best and it just doesn't happen for them. Thank goodness they are able to take it in stride and enjoy the graduation regardless.

Yep. I can feel my eybrows inching their way up under my hair, trying to hide, poor babies.

I would have loved to see the guys from Queer Eye come in and do their thing. Or the people from Extreme Makeover. Or the ladies from What Not to Wear. Or that lady in BH who did Oprah's brows (which she kept all these years because they were THAT good - she spent, like $1500 on them, I think?). All do amazing work and no two people end up looking the same - or looking like they shopped at the same store. They could have had guest stylists and top design houses from all over the world, easily.

It's not all about just how wrong AP can be. You guys see the red carpet disasters, too. Some of them just make me want to claw my eyes out (Renee Zellweger's pretty much batting 1000 ). But then, they're up the the street from Hollyweird - who's doing Kidman? Aguilera? J Ho? Portman?

The SO ladies deserved and should have had world-class makeovers from the pros who make the butt ugly televisable all the time. That was a HUGE marketing mistake on the production company's part. Had this been part of the show, they might well be seeing another season. Think about it - they flat out GAVE AP tens of millions in advertising, when they could have had anyone. And she still could have gotten her 15 minutes, coordinating the affair instead of trying to do the homegrown thing. What a damned short-sighted shame. It was a great concept.

I agree, I would have loved to see 'real' makeovers take place.. you want to look better after a makeover than before you went in.. isn't that the reason to do one in the first place? lol I've always wondered what a pro would do for me if I let them create their vision.. but I tell ya.. after seeing Andy's visions I'd want references before someone got ahold of me now lol Pictures of what they've done.. before and after shots so I could see if they had that 'eye' or talent to do the job. Love extreme makeover and queer eye!

A little too late for this to come up, what with SO being cancelled. At first I did not like her makeovers either but now I just find them funny! That dress Summer wore looked like a 60's bedspread. Jodi's hair was a disaster, etc., etc., I have had to see the humor in it or quit watching.

judy wrote:

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A little too late for this to come up, what with SO being cancelled. At first I did not like her makeovers either but now I just find them funny! That dress Summer wore looked like a 60's bedspread. Jodi's hair was a disaster, etc., etc., I have had to see the humor in it or quit watching.

That's the main thing though.. like it's comedic and these women went through a life changing experience and want something to reflect that.. what they get is a joke, it's sad. I feel for them being video taped that way at their supposed 'best' and that one goes into their family videos for years of embarrassment!! Good thing we get to know them and know that Andy isn't bringing out the best of them at all.