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I was with you all the way...but you lost me on the green and purple people.

I see no reason for people to get so angry and defensive when discussing this book and the topic of wieght in the US and what we can do about it. The fact is that what we eat...contributes directly to our over all health. I have not read one personal attack towards anyone in this thread, but some are choosing it to voice their disdain that any would choose to even discuss this topic at all.

I read "French Women Do Not Get Fat", I found it interesting and entertaining.

Another book that I thouroughly enjoyed and got a lot out of is "Japanese Women Do Not Get Old or Fat". The interesting part about this topic is that Japanese women have one of the heathiest life styles in the world. They have the lowest incidence of cancer and heart disease, much of this is attributed to their diets and lifestyles that are far less stressful than those of us in the west.

Talk about not having a choice I was just watching a CNN medical report yesterday about there not being Grocery Stores in parts of Chicago. Many people only have convenience stores which only sell canned veggies and processed meats. They were saying the only way for people to get meat is to go to the numerous fast food places. The closest grocery store which sells "fresh" food is 40 miles away.

LaurenB wrote:

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I see no reason for people to get so angry and defensive when discussing this book and the topic of wieght in the US and what we can do about it. The fact is that what we eat...contributes directly to our over all health. I have not read one personal attack towards anyone in this thread, but some are choosing it to voice their disdain that any would choose to even discuss this topic at all.

Yes, I guess you would see it that way...lol

Ciera wrote:

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I was with you all the way...but you lost me on the green and purple people.

Oh.............just my own way of saying how different we all are......I always say that to my kids too...............as a way of injecting humor in!!!



I guess I define defensiveness and having an emotional and personal interest in a topic VERY differently!!! I totally expect and understand emotional investment. As for reacting to purely fact-based posts.............no, I don't. But I do jump in when the facts are one-sided or generalizations are made. When someone says that everyone can lose weight by exercising and watching portion control..............then that's where I will jump in...........because that's not accurate by any stretch. While it is a fact, it's not the only true fact. And often, unless someone is personally affected by a specific issue (in this case, being fat) generalizations are made and accepted.

I'm all for discussing interesting topics and information, but I will post how I feel and I will post what I know either from research or personal experience. When I know a fact to be untrue because of personal experience, I bet it does come across as emotional and personal. Good! And I read and understand others who post emotional and personal viewpoints that I may or may not have understood to a certain level.

I don't consider it defensiveness unless all that's posted is a beligerant and curt reply. But if topics that can be very sesitive are started.........don't be surprised at varying levels of emotion in responses.

Like I said before........this is an interesting topic and I believe we all went better health and better health care options and grocery options, etc. But I don't believe a topic like this needs to be microscopically inpected by those who just want to complain about fat people and justify a bias or some other motive. After all, why do many who are thin and have no issue at all with this want to throw "facts" out and hash this over and over?

Now, please do NOT say that I accused anyone of doing this in this particular thread..............I just said that ****I**** tend to stop talking about topics if that's what I sense is going on. But if we're learning and supporting each other...........then I'm all in!!!!

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LaurenB wrote:

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I see no reason for people to get so angry and defensive when discussing this book and the topic of wieght in the US and what we can do about it. The fact is that what we eat...contributes directly to our over all health. I have not read one personal attack towards anyone in this thread, but some are choosing it to voice their disdain that any would choose to even discuss this topic at all.

Yes, I guess you would see it that way...lol

Nice, Tara...once again you choose to break your own rules!!!LOL

Well, people can read back and decide for themselves, now can't they.

Too bad, that some people that are concerned with their weight issues that might have gained some help here, will not recieve it! Great coaching!

Funny, on this site, a simple discussion regarding a national health issue is twisted......by you!!

Sorry that you are obese...sorry that you have nothing to do with it....

Yes, it is all about taking hormones as a child.........

Yes, Tara...WE do choose what we put into our bodies and their is sufficient labeling. You have been able to choose hormone free foods for more than ten years now.

No, I do not look down on fat and obese people, only those that refuse to take action in their own lives and choose to blame others for their condition. If you felt good about yourself.....you would never post things such as this.

Is this how you Coach????EEEE Gads!