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That is exactly what I am saying, she makes EVERYTHING about her!! whether it is because of the abuse she suffered, or living in an alcoholic family, or in my opinion for the attention, none of us will ever truely know, only allison know how her mind works, and why she does what she does, but we CAN all have our opinions and theories, and as i'm sure everyone knows my opinion is that she loves the attention! It doesn't matter if it is any of the housemates issues, total strangers issues(couple fighting) she somehow ALWAYS makes it about her!!!

sorry I wanted to add that I don't think allison is in the house for the attention alone, I do think she has the issues she came into the house for, and a lot if it is I think do to the abuse and cancer and so forth, but for the most part I think she is really doing much better on all her issues, I think she just pretends not to be so she can stay in front of the camera for the attention, along with her trying to make everything aobut her!

linemanswife wrote:

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why does she seem to think EVERYTHING always has to be about and revolve around her?

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If she had such a great experience why let it get ruined by feeling sorry for yourself!!! I am sure there would have been plenty of other opportunities to sare her experince with the housemates! everything does not have to opperate on allison time!!!
sorry I think allison needs to grow up and just like dr. stan said get thicker skin, and quit having such high expectations of others.

I still am pondering more on the allison issue in my brain, but gotta agree with this post. As I've been busy with MAJOR real life issues, (Mam passed away last Wed. and was bedridden for a week or so before....), I DVR'd all the shows and got to watch them one after the other, of the past two weeks or so.

I was just baffled (once again!!) by allison, going to Houston to GIVE support to the survivors of Katrina, and coming home NEEDING support for GIVING it! She does irk me so, and since Mam passed I've been trying really hard to look at everyone differently, with more compassion, as Mam did. But I can NOT get over the baby act.
Dr. Stan was so right on when he said no more making up stories, no more hyperbole, grow a thicker skin, and STOP making everything about herself!!!!!

She's driving me batty, (I know, I'm already halfway there, okay a bit more than halfway, )

With her and lisa, this is really a time to watch. I missed the first time around, and am watching these two very self centered women, lisa with her nasty snarkiness, 'sharing her *FEEEEEEEEELINGS*', and using that remark to make ANY kind of snarky comment on anyone there.
Making it look as if everyone was waiting for allison to come back and clean, and yet, WTH was lisa doing, not scrubbing the tub, as she 'wasn't the last one to use it', and doing exactly what she was trying to make the others feel bad about.
It was good, and very healthy (for allison herself, whether she knows it or not, yet), to watch allison get busted in group by Dr. Stan, when she started with the hyperventilating and crying, hearing ppl say 'this is what the problem is, we can't say anything to allison as she just tears up and takes on all (alleged) blame', and her emotions make everyone back off. She's worse than walking on eggshells. It's like walking over a huge spiked pit, covered with eggshells! It's one of the best controlling 'acts' there are, taking it all on oneself, and 'not looking like a "biotch"'.
And yes, ppl can choose to not let her emotions control them, and their own actions. But you can only try so many times, and get met with that 'act'.
They, the SO Show, have truly done her a MAJOR disservice of letting her come back and letting her stay for so long. Whatever. Some say she wasn't ready, too soon, but they ought to have taken her in for a week or a set amount of time, already stated ahead of time, so that she wouldn't dig that rut she's in and instead of climbing out, she just keeps *decorating* it! How many 'ladders' can they hand her to get out, with her merely tossing them back out, unused???
The show has been enabling her long enough, it's been toooo long. She needs private counseling and I certainly hope she gets it.
And to whomever said she didn't look happy t the race, was right, I agree, she is still sitting in that rut, has new wallpaper up, and is charging new paint and furniture for it, heh.
It's a sad life she is *CHOOSING* to live. I have some empathy for her, but not much as the days grow longer and it's the 'allison show', every day with her.
Oh well, just a minor vent...and all my own opinions. Had to get it out somewhere that others can see both sides. Even if I don't agree with everyone else.

Love ya'll,
Princess Piper

linemanswife wrote:

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why does she seem to think EVERYTHING always has to be about and revolve around her?

<gentle snip for space>

If she had such a great experience why let it get ruined by feeling sorry for yourself!!! I am sure there would have been plenty of other opportunities to sare her experince with the housemates! everything does not have to opperate on allison time!!!
sorry I think allison needs to grow up and just like dr. stan said get thicker skin, and quit having such high expectations of others.

I still am pondering more on the allison issue in my brain, but gotta agree with this post. As I've been busy with MAJOR real life issues, (Mam passed away last Wed. and was bedridden for a week or so before....), I DVR'd all the shows and got to watch them one after the other, of the past two weeks or so.

I was just baffled (once again!!) by allison, going to Houston to GIVE support to the survivors of Katrina, and coming home NEEDING support for GIVING it! She does irk me so, and since Mam passed I've been trying really hard to look at everyone differently, with more compassion, as Mam did. But I can NOT get over the baby act.
Dr. Stan was so right on when he said no more making up stories, no more hyperbole, grow a thicker skin, and STOP making everything about herself!!!!!

She's driving me batty, (I know, I'm already halfway there, okay a bit more than halfway, )

With her and lisa, this is really a time to watch. I missed the first time around, and am watching these two very self centered women, lisa with her nasty snarkiness, 'sharing her *FEEEEEEEEELINGS*', and using that remark to make ANY kind of snarky comment on anyone there.
Making it look as if everyone was waiting for allison to come back and clean, and yet, WTH was lisa doing, not scrubbing the tub, as she 'wasn't the last one to use it', and doing exactly what she was trying to make the others feel bad about.
It was good, and very healthy (for allison herself, whether she knows it or not, yet), to watch allison get busted in group by Dr. Stan, when she started with the hyperventilating and crying, hearing ppl say 'this is what the problem is, we can't say anything to allison as she just tears up and takes on all (alleged) blame', and her emotions make everyone back off. She's worse than walking on eggshells. It's like walking over a huge spiked pit, covered with eggshells! It's one of the best controlling 'acts' there are, taking it all on oneself, and 'not looking like a "biotch"'.
And yes, ppl can choose to not let her emotions control them, and their own actions. But you can only try so many times, and get met with that 'act'.
They, the SO Show, have truly done her a MAJOR disservice of letting her come back and letting her stay for so long. Whatever. Some say she wasn't ready, too soon, but they ought to have taken her in for a week or a set amount of time, already stated ahead of time, so that she wouldn't dig that rut she's in and instead of climbing out, she just keeps *decorating* it! How many 'ladders' can they hand her to get out, with her merely tossing them back out, unused???
The show has been enabling her long enough, it's been toooo long. She needs private counseling and I certainly hope she gets it.
And to whomever said she didn't look happy t the race, was right, I agree, she is still sitting in that rut, has new wallpaper up, and is charging new paint and furniture for it, heh.
It's a sad life she is *CHOOSING* to live. I have some empathy for her, but not much as the days grow longer and it's the 'allison show', every day with her.
Oh well, just a minor vent...and all my own opinions. Had to get it out somewhere that others can see both sides. Even if I don't agree with everyone else.

Love ya'll,
Princess Piper

piper wrote:

QUOTE:
linemanswife wrote:

QUOTE:
why does she seem to think EVERYTHING always has to be about and revolve around her?

<gentle snip for space>

If she had such a great experience why let it get ruined by feeling sorry for yourself!!! I am sure there would have been plenty of other opportunities to sare her experince with the housemates! everything does not have to opperate on allison time!!!
sorry I think allison needs to grow up and just like dr. stan said get thicker skin, and quit having such high expectations of others.

I still am pondering more on the allison issue in my brain, but gotta agree with this post. As I've been busy with MAJOR real life issues, (Mam passed away last Wed. and was bedridden for a week or so before....), I DVR'd all the shows and got to watch them one after the other, of the past two weeks or so.

I was just baffled (once again!!) by allison, going to Houston to GIVE support to the survivors of Katrina, and coming home NEEDING support for GIVING it! She does irk me so, and since Mam passed I've been trying really hard to look at everyone differently, with more compassion, as Mam did. But I can NOT get over the baby act.
Dr. Stan was so right on when he said no more making up stories, no more hyperbole, grow a thicker skin, and STOP making everything about herself!!!!!

She's driving me batty, (I know, I'm already halfway there, okay a bit more than halfway, :laugh: )

With her and lisa, this is really a time to watch. I missed the first time around, and am watching these two very self centered women, lisa with her nasty snarkiness, 'sharing her *FEEEEEEEEELINGS*', and using that remark to make ANY kind of snarky comment on anyone there.
Making it look as if everyone was waiting for allison to come back and clean, and yet, WTH was lisa doing, not scrubbing the tub, as she 'wasn't the last one to use it', and doing exactly what she was trying to make the others feel bad about.
It was good, and very healthy (for allison herself, whether she knows it or not, yet), to watch allison get busted in group by Dr. Stan, when she started with the hyperventilating and crying, hearing ppl say 'this is what the problem is, we can't say anything to allison as she just tears up and takes on all (alleged) blame', and her emotions make everyone back off. She's worse than walking on eggshells. It's like walking over a huge spiked pit, covered with eggshells! It's one of the best controlling 'acts' there are, taking it all on oneself, and 'not looking like a "biotch"'.
And yes, ppl can choose to not let her emotions control them, and their own actions. But you can only try so many times, and get met with that 'act'.
They, the SO Show, have truly done her a MAJOR disservice of letting her come back and letting her stay for so long. Whatever. Some say she wasn't ready, too soon, but they ought to have taken her in for a week or a set amount of time, already stated ahead of time, so that she wouldn't dig that rut she's in and instead of climbing out, she just keeps *decorating* it! How many 'ladders' can they hand her to get out, with her merely tossing them back out, unused???
The show has been enabling her long enough, it's been toooo long. She needs private counseling and I certainly hope she gets it.
And to whomever said she didn't look happy t the race, was right, I agree, she is still sitting in that rut, has new wallpaper up, and is charging new paint and furniture for it, heh.
It's a sad life she is *CHOOSING* to live. I have some empathy for her, but not much as the days grow longer and it's the 'allison show', every day with her.
Oh well, just a minor vent...and all my own opinions. Had to get it out somewhere that others can see both sides. Even if I don't agree with everyone else.:)

Love ya'll,
Princess Piper

I totally agree with you. Iyanla begins to see that the best thing she can do for Allison is cut the ambilical cord of the SO house as they are only enabling her now and it becomes clearer that the longer she is there the worse she gets. The spotlight has become as addicting as her other obsessions just as her neediness and doing anything she can for attention, when she feels she isn't receiving what is due her she goes off the deep end, flailing in self pity in an attempt to grab on to whomever will placate her undying needs. Her mom seemed to have gotten accustom to this type behavior in saying to her she just wouldn't be happy at home with 'hollywood' in her heart and that's exactly how she portrays herself to me. Sad and pathetic when she really has so much to be thankful for.. wonder if she will ever see this, or if she does see it but gets another type high (non-alcoholic) in manipulating others into her pity party. She already manipulates by 'service' so that she can be seen as 'wonderful helpful Allison', for the adoration and attention, but Lord knows she expects in return for them to sing her praises and be there for her at her beckoned call for every emotional breakdown or tantrum she throws when her esteem needs are not getting met.

I hope that she learns the real meaning of life since she's been given a second chance to LIVE her life.. she may regret it when it's too late if her cancer ever does return, so why gamble on that? I wish she could see that she got a huge wake up call and an opportunity to really make a difference with her time here on earth. She has an open personality and the potential to use her care giving personna in a real dramatic way for cancer patients that she says she wants to benefit, yet tied up with her own personal agenda and her need for total focus to be on her .. her path is too clouded and selfish in order to do the real good that she could be capable of achieving. I hope she has gone on and gotten therapy for herself for her own benefit as I truly believe she is her own worst enemy, and that once she is okay and can genuinely help with the right frame of mind, that she will then persue helping others as she claims to desire but with a whole different perspective, the right one, the selfless way.

You're absolutely right. She manipulated Dr Stan, by "hyperventilating", into postponing her graduation. And, will later manipulate Iyanla with the "what, no second makeover and shoping spree?" pity party into giving her a new graduation outfit.